shut up shut up shut up

[mofette]

shut the fuck up about the women in the dove advert. I remember seeing them and thinking how I would kill to be as thin as them.

Now I'm sat at home by myself bawling my fucking eyes out. I need a fucking hug :(

I would gladly batter anyone that said they were fat. I have never been as thin as any of them and to think that people are calling them FAT? Fucking hell that is such an insult to me.

I remember seeing the adverts and thinking that they had no wobbly bits either.

OH FUCK I NEED SOMEONE HERE :((((((

Comments

[mindygoth.livejournal.com]

*HUG*

For what it's worth, I didn't think any of them were anywhere near fat!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I'm glad it's not just me

[medusa.livejournal.com]

Do you want to come over to ours later on for dinner and huggage?

xx

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I would, but I have work at 9 :( and I've already got the things out for tonight's dinner :(

sorry
xx
thanks for asking though

[basicblack.livejournal.com]

Mofette, you're beautiful - very beautiful. I've always thought so. I can't change the way you see yourself but... I hope you can at least accept other people find you attractive, and come to realise for yourself how lovely you really are.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I'm just unhappy at the moment, partly to putting on my ex-baggy jeans and finding them tight this morning

[sparklielizard.livejournal.com]

They're not fat (or even overweight) but they are badly photographed. Why shouldn't people who have a normal weight have nice photos taken like stick thin women do? I think the photos were deliberately made to look as rough as possible so the audience would think they were being "realistic", which is rot.

Plus, I think they're sucking their tummies in which is why we can't see some of the wobbly bits ;-)

It's not about how heavy you are, it's about how you carry it off. Dove did those women no favours!

Just my opinion though. And for the record I think you look lovely and it never occurred to me to think of you as particularly overweight because you dress well and look good!

So there!

[canudiglett]

What she said!

[blue-jez.livejournal.com]

Excuse me?

Them, Fat?

I was of the opinion they wwere normal to slim. For that reason I was annoyed by that advert. People believe the hype, they do not use their goddamn brains.

[jozafeen.livejournal.com]

Yup, they're normal though I was gobsmacked to hear two townie blokes referring to the one on the bus adverts as a fat minger when both of them had beerbellies and 15 chins.

Oh, and Moff - you're gorgeous and you can't fight popular opinion!

[kissmeforlonger.livejournal.com]

They aren't fat, they're *normal*. We're just so not used to seeing a normal woman's body on TV that we can't remember what the hell it looks like.

Models are anorexic, never mind slim. Anyone's going to look 'fat' standing next to a human drainpipe aren't they?

And you're not fat either!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

they are normal, well unless you live in leeds :/ there's something in the water I swear

[androktone.livejournal.com]

hun :<

They're less wobbly than I am, too! I've just stopped comparing myself to things because i always get upset.

You're attractive - pretty much everyone i know who knows you thinks so. Also, you have no idea how other people see you - a mirror is not an accurate representation. A static photograph is no representation of how people see you when you move. Don't disbelieve people when they tell you you're attractive/beautiful, because you can't see what they do.

And i know lots of skinny mingers, so thats a stoooopid thing to base your self image on :)

[mofette.livejournal.com]

unfortunately we see the photos that are taken when we aren't prepared, and they're the nasty ones. imagine all the faces that you pull that aren't seen in photos, and everyone else sees them anyways!

I know that my face isn't too bad, I'm just not happy with my shape at the moment

[maviscruet.livejournal.com]

My dear,

I've only meet you once and your not Fat.

Me, now I'm fat. Yes it can be upsetting as anybody seeing my complaints in my journel will tell you. But it's only weight. IT's not important compaired to who you are and how people love you.

Trite I know. But fortunetly true.

As for the Dove women, there on the side of a bus. there not real. A friend of mine, a women, used to have a job 'touching up the models for loaded'. She worked in photoshop removing any imperfections in the photographs. She said it was the most liberating experience in the world. Even all those 'perfect' women you see in magazines there no such thing. So don't compaire your self to them in anyway, because there not real. And you are.

Apparently, although I never see you at wendy house. Mind you that could be because I never leave the dance floor.....

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I know you've only met me once, but that was at the height of my diet. I've stopped since then and put on 2 stone.

I should try the dancefloor more often, and jsut try and bloody move.

[pyrobaby.livejournal.com]

sweetie, there is NOTHING hideous about you. Nothing worth crying over. "fat" doesn't even have fucking meaning anymore in our society, I think it's up there with "gay" and "retarded" in the list of words people just use for reaction/insults. You're a doll, don't let some bints in a commercial convince you any different. *hug*

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I'm not happy though, this was just a trigger point. And it's not the bint's fault, it's the people calling the "normal" bints fat.
http://www.livejournal.com/~flickgc/279869.html

[http://users.livejournal.com/psycho-magnet-/]

The advert came on when I was at my parents' house and my dad and brother started making comments about it. Me and my mum both got really angry at them, we pointed out that they are not fat and in fact we are both similar shapes to some of the women in the advert and that we would both be quite happy to be in such good shape as they are. All my dad could say is 'well they look funny shaped to me' and my brother called them fat.

Men!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I would either have attacked them or cried my eyes out :/

[lykeios.livejournal.com]

ok is that the one with them in their bras, they're not fat... the one at the back might well be a rugby player and possibly called derek... but they're not fat and neither are you... so there :-P

[mofette.livejournal.com]

Derek? *giggles*

[dan-lane.livejournal.com]

*jiggles his manboobs*

[mofette.livejournal.com]

*laughs*

thanks, you've put a smile on my face :D

[oh-so-british.livejournal.com]

First off... *hugs*

Secondly, people react to what the masses say and don't think first. They don't realise what they are really saying and the impact it has on people.

Now, no matter what I say about you're figure it's not going to stop you feeling the way you do about it. You're not happy with it, and I don't think you ever will be. I've been there. And then I lost a lot of weight and am still doing so. Unfortunately I had to get very ill to do so. And the only reason I don't put it all back on now is because of all the kickboxing I do.

Dieting doesn't work. Half an hour walking a day doesn't work. Figuring out what your life demands and constraints are and working a plan around them does. If you want advice, shout.

For the record I don't look at you and think you're fat. I think you look fine and well, normal. Not big nor skinny thin, just normal. Does that make sense?

Drop me a line, I'll be happy to help if I can.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I know that I have to make changes before I'll change, but unfortunately I don't have the time or money at the moment. I'm going to see what the summer brings, and then hopefully I can afford not to work, and then have the time for fitness in my 4th year

thank you :)

[arabella-jin.livejournal.com]

They are NOT fat! And girl you have the attitude!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

ok then, fuck off



;)
<3

[gabby2600.livejournal.com]

Wobbly bits goooooooodddd...
Boney bits baaaaadddd...

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I know, I like some wobbly bits ;)

[rainbowskye.livejournal.com]

What Rosie said. And you're lovely, and I've seen you in the last couple of weeks, so ner. I don't think the Dove women are fat, particularly since I am myself moving towards being some sort of 50 stone weeble as we speak, I just think they have horrible undies!!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

yeah, I know you did :) I was so ashamed when I went to the pub, and I still can't fit into that skirt!

[-cheiron-.livejournal.com]

The issue is not how other people see you; but how you see yourself.

I am fat; I am overweight; I am medically obese. I have been diagnosed with a dangerously high cholesterol level. During my "I don't really care" phase all that mattered was how I felt and I felt good whatever size I was and whatever I ate. I knew how to hide or disguise the fat bits as long as it didn't get too out of hand. It didn't bother me what other people said about other people, or what they said about me.

BUT ... Now the only reason I'm on a strict anti-saturate diet and exercising is because of the medical problems associated with everything. I don't want to have the sort of problems I am most likely to have in 10 years time..if I can control it now I'm young.. the better.

I'm not gonna tell you how good looking you are now; whatever I say doesn't particularly change how YOU feel about yourself or about others having a go at "fatties" that you believe look thinner than you - NOR should it change anything. If I was a real friend and believed you were fat I ought to tell you to sort it out instead of telling you you're beautiful and should keep things the way they are; something that's obviously making you miserable.

For me it didn't bother me at all; I knew what the problems were and I accepted them. You obviously know the problems but aren't so accepting which is why you want it changed. There's no point in seething at those who believe someone else is a fatty.

So what I will say is that it's not difficult to control things and change them whatever way you want them to change - obviously you know this as you were 2 stone lighter not so long ago; and its obvious that you want things to change.

I haven't seen the Dove women adverts; but if what the majority of other people say is true then maybe they really are Shishka (festively plump.) Doesn't make them any less beautiful or any more ugly really; I've seen good looking fatties and bad looking skinnies and vice-versa.

So cheer up and keep in mind you'll never break the laws of thermodynamics. If you truly wanna change things a hug won't make a difference; keeping track of your input and output will though.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I am cheered up, it's just... you know some days, everything's fine. I can cope with being my size, and then one day someone calls someone you'd consider thin, fat. and you want to kill people.

When I've got more money and time I'll do something, but this week, it's not possible

but thanks
xxx

[lordofthethings.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen you OR the adverts (just seen a pic posted in that other journal). However, people are used to seeing stick thin people in adverts nowadays, and so anyone above this size is immediately fat. It's a knee-jerk reaction because people are scared of their own weight and have far too much insecurity.

I haven't ever owned a pair of weighing scales so I don't know my weight, but then again I'm a bloke so I guess it doesn't matter. People look good because of who they are, not because of how much they weigh.

In short: food = personality. Eat more. I like chocolate. Especially Penguins.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

We have to meet up for lunch or something one day!

Thanks for the nice words, you don't even know me, and that's really nice :D

Beer!

[gabby2600.livejournal.com]

A lot of what makes a person attractive is not what's on the outside but whats on the inside.

I myself ama little chubby around the gills, but I never let it get to me I actually fine it quite amusing at poking fun at myself for it, because it's self inflicted (to lazy, like bacon sanga's), I know I can become a thin stick insect of a man in about 6 months, but whould that really make me happy.... NOP! I am thinking og geting a bit more regualr excercise, becasue well basically I'm unfit, but other than that no concerted efforts on my part.

I rahter have someone with personality, rather than a vacant stick insect.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

I know I need to make more efforts, but I haven't got the time or the money, so I'll just wait until the summer :)

thanks for the kind words though!

[ex-stephanie345.livejournal.com]

This has really got to me too today :(

[mofette.livejournal.com]

we can be annoyed together :)

[gabby2600.livejournal.com]

Wanna see something realy sick.

http://superherohype.com/gallery/Catwoman/The_Movie/Movie_Stills/catwomanfeb2.jpg
(big picture so click to look.)

That's apparently attractive, according to most of the mens Magazines Halle Berry is one of the best looking women in the world. MY ASS SHE IS!

Looking at that picture she is hidiously deformed, the pose is not natural and make her look like she has bone problems, she is far to skinny and the underlying muscles make her look like a man. if thats he national concensus of the ideal woman, I go for the underlings ever time. Oh and the outfit is hidious, why do people were clothes that just don't suite them.

Also being to thin can be as unhealthy as being overweight, deteriation of the bones, joins and muscles, usually cannot be reversed, where as most problems with being overweight can be over time.

[mofette.livejournal.com]

that is the most awful outfit ever!!

[myz-lilith.livejournal.com]

Remember, it's still an advert so while they're going on about using "normal women" I bet a casting director has still scoured the auditions for the ones with the least wobbly bits...

Personally I always think you look stunning. But if you're not ~feeling~ stunning I think I mentioned the South Beach diet to you? It's how I've lost weight recently and the good thing is it's all lots of really nice healthy food, so you don't feel you're starving yourself, and get to feel all proud about being healthy and you have more energy. Plus chocolate and red wine are both not just allowed but encouraged in small doses! I'm still losing weight and have practically forgotten I'm on a diet! I can lend you the book next time I see you if you like.

(Not that I think you look at all like you need to feel weight, cos you are GORGEOUS, but I know what it's like when you're feeling uncomfortable in your own skin - sometimes you don't just want to hear "oh, you're fine, don't worry".)

[gabby2600.livejournal.com]

Another good way and this works for me every time, is a mountain bike. In my skinny runt days I used to cycle 60 miles evry sunday morning. But sadly noe I could not manage 6. I do plan on getting back in to rideing as it was fun and got me out of the house. Actually when me and Lyd get moved to Stafford, we plan on doing regualr rides ont he chase, so if you can gt to stafford and get a bike your welcome to come along.


Another good things Kite flying, not the small things but the big parafoils, they knacker you out quickly and get you out of breath in about 5 mins.

[blondelass.livejournal.com]

If only dieting was as a easy as rubbing cream into the skin...

Do you think there'd still be a multi-million pound industry for it?

[mofette.livejournal.com]

*grin*
nope

you's smart, you are

[roler.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen the commercial in question but for the record I totally MEAN it when I say all the pictures you post of yourself are HAWT. I mean, REALLY. You are one of the most amazing-looking people I know and I only wish I had as much style as you!

[mofette.livejournal.com]

thanks :)
If only people could see the 5 billion photos that I throw away ;)

[viktoria33.livejournal.com]

*Huggles* From what I've seen of your piccies you don't look at all fat! I'm sorry to hear you is feeling down about yourself. :( You shouldn't! So there!

As for the Dove adverts.... I thought it was nice to see some normal shaped girls on an ad for a change. Okay, on the smaller end of normal but at least not match stick thin like you usually see. I didn't think for one moment that any of them looked fat. Curvy, yes, but curvy is gooood!! :)

On a down day, I'd probably get really defensive about folk calling other folk fat. I'd probably take it personally. Most of the time I'm fine with being fat. I know it's because of my body not working properly and not because I scoff loads of food. What other people think is of no matter. And even if I was fat because I scoffed lots of food, I'd probably be okay with that too because everything has it's consequences. If you love to eat there shouldn't be any shame in it!!! And large people can look every bit as good as thin people... if the beholder isn't fattist!!!

I'm in Leeds tomorrow for the day. Want to meet and do lunch? Will text you too just in case you don't read this any time soon...

[mofette.livejournal.com]

sorry I didn't meet you for lunch; I'm dopey.

I am not sad that I'm bigger than people, I'm just sad that I no longer feel comfortable at this size, and no longer feel attractive.

I just wish I could magic it away :/